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Billy2024	Physical Body Ascension - what if anything happens with bodily flaws in the process and afterwards		Lead	[-]
Posts: 171 06/18/11 08:03	Tags : None Two nights ago (Thursday 16 June 2011) I awoke from a dream and wrote it up in my OmTalks Members Journal topic, Vision/Insights Journal, as 2011/06/16 Dream: House Coat, Shot, Military Meeting, Face Rash. Then wrote up the following comments about that dream: Analysis: It wouldn't take much of a stretch of imagination to consider the above dream elements to be a symbolic version of an astral abduction scenario encoded to hide such an event to my wakening consciousness as the scenario contains several topics that correlate to elements in previous dreams that I associate with a spiritual theme such as being escorted, military setting, educational setting, physician, examination, bodily discomfort, shot, mirror image. I have a number of times wondered about the ascension process and what happens to physical flaws and ailments that a person's physical body has and what good would it do for a physical body to ascend if it was flawed in significant ways. It has been said by some folks that the mind will be able to heal the physical body once the person's ascension is underway or well along. That is all well and good except: how in the world would my sixty seven year old body be something physical that I would want to ascend with? It's one thing to have the healing ability with your mind and consciousness to clear up an illness situation such as diabetes type II. But how would the ascension process of a physical body handle such things as missing teeth or in the case of some people missing limbs? I could imagine that a new astral like body could be created which has these flaws repaired or corrected or replaced but that would not be the same as having your actual physical body ascend with you! All that said I could possibly interpret the above dream scenario as having something to do with correcting the missing teeth that I have lost over the years and thus a way to help explain to me how such a major flaw as missing teeth could be corrected. If someone suggests that teeth aren't needed by an ascended physical body then I would suggest what happens to the physical teeth that one has? Do they ascend as is? And thus you ascend with a physical body that does in fact have its physical flaws? Which makes me wonder why would a person want to ascend with their physical body if all ailments and flaws were not correctable or corrected? I made a further observational comment: It would be interesting to get Casey's comments about physical body flaws and ascension of her physical body... and if she had had her leg amputated when young what would she think about her physical body ascension... my own opinion at this time is that ascension is primarily a change in perception of consciousness... that is what my own awakening has been 100 percent as far as I can tell over the last couple of decades... You [Far North - Dave] state "Your body ... get replenished over time" may suggest the solution... except I want to know the nuts and bolts of how its done - how is the solution implemented... i'm pretty sure this whole area is a technology of some kind... an advanced technology... if you watched Marcia Shafer's video (Marcia Shafer - Project Camelot Conference (ET insights about sleep paralysis, etc)) you will hear her talking about an actual ET technology to rotate the "soul body" of a physical body to place the synapses out of alignment to generate sleep paralysis during abductions or OBEs... I can accept that because it makes sense to me that a technology is involved here... so I suspect there is a technology also involved in prepping a physical body for ascension... but actually I'm interested in knowing the finer details of the process...
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Far North	Identifying with breath	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 134 06/18/11 05:39	This whole idea of the body confuses me. Like I said yesterday, I think the concept of the body as it is generally understood is a mistaken concept. What is the body? I identify more with breath. I'm sure my breath is not exactly me, but my breath is closer to me than my body. I may lose a leg, but the leg is not me – obviously. However, if I lose my breath, if my breath is permanently lost – then I am a goner. So, as long as I continue breathing, the essence of me continues – on the physical plane, that is. Of course, I would have to be conscious of my breath to realize that my essence continues. So, if I'm closest to my breath as personal identity, then what is breath? If you evaluate breath, you will realize that breath is actually "you plus other." "You" is your respiratory apparatus supported by all other bodily functions and the "other" is the external world – most closely the air that surrounds you. But the air that surrounds you is also multifaceted and boundless, really. That external air is actually everything. The air is produced by all other living organisms and the biosystem in general – other humans, other animals, the plant world, the evaporation from oceans, gases from the soil, etc. So, if the personal you is most closely approximated by your breath, then you are really everything. And the "body" that you are wondering about – which seemed to be in degeneration – is really not in degeneration at all. Your body is really everything, and everything is ongoing and full of life and vibrant and endless. Even those parts of you that are "lost" – your skin cells, your hair, maybe your teeth, all that cell turnover in general – it all returns to the earth, and indirectly (maybe very indirectly) continues to support "you." You end up breathing yourself over and over and over again. Obviously this is the mystical answer to your question. But I think mysticism and biology and physics are closely aligned – via metaphysics, at the very least. But also quite tangibly. In Christianity, the explanation that I have given above is called the "Body of Christ." Last Edited By: Far North 06/19/11 12:42. Edited 1 time.
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Billy2024	Being unfocused	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/18/11 07:02	Dave, Your comments about breath mean little to me as they don't seem to be focused on the question at hand. One of the techniques I learned long ago was to try to put a box around a question or issue or problem i.e. to place an upper boundary limit and a lower boundary limit around an question/issue/problem then I could squeeze those boundary conditions by finding a new lower upper boundary limit and a new upper lower boundary limit condition. If I continued to use that method eventually I was able to either solve the question/issue/problem or at least better understand it. I used my personal experiences or information from the knowledge base about that the question/issue/problem at hand that I built over the years so that I used what I felt were fairly real data/situations to understand the question/issue/problem. You are way too unfocused in your words for me to understand what you are saying. :-)...
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Far North	You don't exist	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 134 06/19/11 01:00	What I'm saying is you don't exist. That is a misconception. I don't know how practical concept that is to you, but it is useful for me. It lets me relax. It makes the questions less important to begin with. It makes me realize that the mind can never really come to an understanding of the questions and problems that perplex it. All the intelligence in the world, all definitions, all demarcations, all philosophizing – totally useless. The mind can never understand the mystery of oneself and the mystery of creation. What you propose is a useful game, but it is a game only – destined to fail. The mind loves to play these games. And the mind actually doesn't mind failing. The mind lives under the assumption and delusion that these answers can be found. So it keeps on searching – torturing itself a little bit; but then masochism really doesn't bother the mind. It gives it a sense of purpose – a twisted sustenance. Isn't it really happiness that you pursue? Not answers. Happiness doesn't have an answer. Happiness just is. Without an identity. Without any questions and without any answers. It's been said that it is no great wonder why so many people have "problems." People think that they exist, and therein lies the essential problem. "You" don't really exist at all. Therefore any problems that you frame in terms of yourself will always remain problems – by definition. The concept of "you" is the problem! When you realize that you don't exist, your problems fall away. Last Edited By: Far North 06/19/11 01:34. Edited 2 times.
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Billy2024	Unfocused and Rambling	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/19/11 08:10	I completely disagree with you on all of your "points". You provide no evidence from personal experiences that support your "points". What you say and how you say it is to me unfocused and not relevant to the understanding of the original issue (i.e. 'PBA - what if anything happens with bodily flaws in the process and afterwards') since you do not provide supporting evidence to back it up. Supporting evidence from similar examples taken from personal experiences or your personal knowledge base built up over the years is crucial to building your arguments otherwise you are just rambling and unfocused. Point #1: "You don't exist" & "People think they exist but they don't exist". I exist and you exist and we are having this exchange of information. If we did not exist then this exchange of information would not be possible. You don't make clear if you are talking about existing in a physical body in this physical reality or somewhere else. Clearly if I perceive that I exist in this physical reality then I do exist in this physical reality as long as my perception is being done from within this physical reality. Point #2: "What I propose is a useless game - destined to fail". Putting a box around a question/issue/problem is a methodology to come to grips and understand its parameters. Once you can define some boundaries around the q/i/p then you can start squeezing those boundaries to begin to focus in on a better understanding of the problem. This is basically how Calculus handles coming to grips to dealing with limit values. When I was in the Air Force I was an electronics technician. I use to trouble shoot electronic problems with equipment. I soon discovered that I needed to define the boundaries of the electronic problem. Once I had an understanding of the boundaries then I could explore those boundaries and look for new boundaries inside the box surrounding the problem. If I continued this process than eventually I would solve the electronic problem. After I left the Air Force my career was with software engineering and computer programming. Early on in my computer programming experiences I quickly discovered that the way to solve and track problems is to fine limit boundaries around programming problems then move closer and closer to the core issue by squeezing those boundaries. From these personal experiences over several decades I have been successful in solving problems. This applies to other areas of life as well but my tools always involve the use of personal experiences, delving into my personal knowledge base of what I know and have learned from over the years. Point #3: "Isn't happiness what you pursue and not answers". I am not in the pursuit of happiness but rather understanding. Over the last twenty some years I have had many many experiences of emotional cleansing (http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/basic_mission_training.html) which is a technique used by guides to force a person when they first start to awaken to become aware of inner issues that need to be dealt with. These emotional clearing experiences are typically induced by a guide by downloading an information packet to a person which creates a conflict situation in a person's awareness. This information packet when activated in the individual is usually rather unpleasant and painful. Thus the person is forced to come to grips with this issue that is "hurting" and clear the emotional issue by bringing it to light inside his/her consciousness. I can provide many examples of emotional cleansing experiences. If you don't believe me or have never experienced these to your own awareness, then all you have to do is mentally ask your guide (whoever he or she might be) to work with you and allow you to have your own personal emotional clearing experiences. Believe me if and when this process begins you will KNOW it because you will suffer considerable distress while you face your internal fears and buried emotional issues by clearing them up. It is a very painful process but essential to your awakening process and what is coming to you in the future. [If you don't understand what an information packet and downloading an information packet is then read the first paragraph of http://home.centurytel.net/wfbishop/TheGreatAwakening/TheGreatAwakeningTotheAngelWithinScene02.html.] Last Edited By: Billy2024 06/19/11 08:26. Edited 5 times.
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omcasey	Physical Body Ascension	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2368 06/19/11 09:56	I am going to try to dive in here later today, I feel a deep connection with this topic, as all who listen in on my videos know. It is true that visual experience is virtual experience, virtual REALITY (emphasis on the latter), and that this is the parameter in which I will be speaking. But this does not lessen anything, or make invalid any question or inquiry arising from within here. Any time we choose to speak from the feminine, from our current experience of 'what is', rather than from 'what is' directly we are going to be expressing a relationship, of the Totality with our particular person / personality. This indeed makes what we say relative, but again this does not lessen, it is what creates the color within the kaleidoscope we now live and breathe. Visual environments stimulate me now more than ever, now that I (to a degree) am knowing them to be virtual. This may be similar to Dave's feeling of 'relief in not existing'. Fear certainly begins receding with this knowing when it is born of experience. Which Billy is saying, is the foundation of good and satisfying discussion, yes I suspect we all agree. I am looking forward to joining in with you, and others who may show up in the meantime again a bit later in the day. Thank you for beginning the talk! .
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Billy2024	Visual Experiences & Virtual Experiences	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/19/11 03:02	Casey suggests visual experiences are virtual experiences... implying that a physical reality experience is a virtual reality experience... I would extend that concept and further suggest that physical reality is in fact pretty much what it appears to be to us humans... that is to say a 3D reality created purposefully about 13+ billion earth years ago by powerful beings via some form of Big Bang process and has evolved pretty much as the Standard Theory of Cosmology suggests down thru time. However the powerful beings set the creation of physical reality into motion with the intent that thru the ages the physical reality of the universe with its many billions of galaxies each of which has many many millions of stars many of which evolve planets of various kinds and systems of moons could be used by various classes of spiritual beings who are outside the physical reality system as a sort of playground over great eons of time to employ (i.e. keep busy) the many beings of the spiritual realms who have an existence that is indefinite (i.e. who are pretty much immortal after being created by some process). After all what do you do to keep all the spiritual beings occupied and busy for eternity without them going stark-raving mad! The solution I suspect is for the more powerful beings to set up some form of programs to keep them all busy. And thus the physical reality of the universe was created to serve that purpose. Development programs were thus created to allow spiritual beings to go into physical reality and experience the sensations of that reality. A method of mating a spiritual form with a physical body form was developed. Thus a spiritual being could enter into the physical world by taking on a physical body which is born, grows, matures then dies releasing the spiritual being from the physical world. And while the spiritual being is within the life of its earthly body, the spiritual being experiences physical reality as a virtual experience. There are other realities different in various ways from physical reality and I would assume it likely that development programs would also have been set up by powerful spiritual beings such that the various classes of spiritual beings could also experience immersions perhaps as some form of life experiences in these other realities. And these such life experiences in these other realities would be experienced as virtual reality experiences respectively also.
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omcasey	Visual Experiences & Virtual Experiences	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2368 06/19/11 07:42	Dave actually suggested it first, when he said we don't really exist, I just ran with it, agreeing that what I visually see is virtual, programmed in to the experience currently playing out. What is central to my (personal) being I feel most definitely exists, existence is foundational, but, yes, everything further is created. Experience itself is created. Visual environments are created. Interfaces (ie: bodies) are created. This does not make them unreal to me, not essentially unreal, for there is only one central substance from which to create, and that is Consciousness, all that is seen and experienced is created of this. The idea of 'unreal' often takes a backseat in my mind to the idea of 'relative' now, which just seems to be a more cozy fit. All experience is relative to Consciousness itself. The day has gotten away from me once again, When I return I hope to more deeply focus in on specific aspects of physical body ascension.. love to everyone, Casey .
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Far North	This is interesting	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 134 06/19/11 09:41	This is interesting. At some level, though, I'm interested in conserving energy. The mind can waste a lot of energy trying to understand things. Casey knows that I have a conflicted relationship with Eckhart Tolle. But I appreciate what Eckhart says about just "being." To me it is so much more relaxing and satisfying to just be. Analysis can be entertaining at times. But I work so hard in other endeavors that I don't always have the energy for these deep discussions. I came to a spiritual haven when I started reading Bernadette Roberts, a Christian mystic. Bernadette (who is now 84 years old) has followed an intense spiritual life from the time she was a young teenager. She was in a convent for 10 years. She left the convent at age 24, went on to get married and have four kids. Her writings on the subjects that we are addressing here – the nature of consciousness – are the most profound writings I have ever read. Bernadette "disappeared" as well. She didn't exist after a while, either. Her oneness with her creator was so complete that she found herself at a point where neither she nor God even existed. I was deeply drawn to her path. She was an intense seeker – probably more intense than any of us could imagine. Her writings are genuine, honest, hugely profound – and to me the succor I had long sought. When I have more time, I will look more closely at your specifics and see what I can glean. Maybe I'll offer something a little more helpful – or maybe not. I work in the field where details can mean life or death. So I am not unfamiliar with the importance of details and specifics. But in my free time, I often enjoy a more mystical approach. I know where you're coming from, Billy. I would've given myself crazy with this "nonsense talk" not so long ago. Last Edited By: Far North 06/19/11 09:44. Edited 1 time.
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omcasey	Re: Physical Body Ascension - what if anything happens with bodily flaws in the process and afterwards	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2368 06/23/11 07:06	. The very short version of my current feeling is this--- The ‘ascension’ is a shift in consciousness, which in turn is a shift in perception, as well as a shift in our quote ‘physical’ experience. It is a complete package. Some people’s shift in consciousness will be to a higher vibration within the current (3D) dimension. Others’ will be to a dimension beyond. The layers of experience within each dimension, as well as the dimensions themselves are seen very differently/uniquely by individual consciousness’ but to use one example, that of 7 layers (like that of a rainbow) within each dimension, it is within the 7th wrung, of this current dimension, that I feel experiences such teleportation, and morphing one’s physical form arise. What makes these experiences possible seems to be the merging of higher dimensional levels of being (Soul, Higher Self, etc..) with the physical person / personality. These higher vibrational energies entering the conscious awareness of the physical person begin to enact a transmutation of the (3D) mind / body system which the physical person thens begins experiencing as his / her reality. This is how I perceive what is happening with me. Regarding body-- Everything is consciousness- microscopic points of consciousness compose what we think of as body. It is not that body does not exist, so much as ‘body’ is not what we have tended to think it is. These microscopic points of consciousness have been visible to me for some time now, so when I say this I am speaking of something I have actually been experiencing to a degree for the past decade. When I, myself, speak of ascending the physical body, I am alluding to the notion that as I ascend, not through the death process but while still living, so too do the billions of individual points of consciousness which compose this current body. We all ascend. We all enjoy the event of our consciousness opening out into a new realm of experience. And we all evidence the change, the new depth and breadth, so to speak. For those who will ascend into the highest experiencable layer of 3D reality, the ability to morph their form will be present. For those who are ascending beyond 3D, the opportunity will arise to consciously dematerialize from this reality system and into a new one, where they too will be able to appear as they wish, likely to a far greater degree. There are no real physical body flaws. The way we currently appear is simply a projection of our current state of mind and understanding. As this begins expanding, so too will be the possible ways in which it can be projected. I know this is very brief, but it is nearabouts where I am with this concept at the moment.. (does it help get things rolling?) .
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Far North	That's pretty good	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 134 06/24/11 05:35	That's pretty good. Sounds a lot like what Thomas Campbell has to say. Precisely, really. I'm wondering how this plays out in a person's experience though. In day-to-day life. Is it practical, so to speak? Thomas Campbell is able to exist in multiple dimensions at once. Quite an ability. Not quite sure how you develop that. Lots and lots of meditation, I assume. Quieting the mind. Opening your mind. Etc. To what extent have you succeeded? To me, this physical plane demands so much, it's hard to expand into the nonphysical. That's a hang up for me. Working on it. I'm going to review what you wrote here. That's quite insightful. It'll take a while to sink in. I should get back to Campbell, as well. He's really good on this, as you know.
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Billy2024	such a simple question	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/24/11 06:53	sooooooo... such a simple question that the both of you are failing to address adequately... hee hee hee... will the missing and broken teeth be replaced physically, instantly at some split-second in the coming months or so once my consciousness evolves into being sufficiently multidimensional?... or will they grow back in again slowly as they formed when I was a small young developing body?... if i can have a new, whole, young body in my dreams as revealed by looking into a dream mirror in my dream reality, why can't I have the same in my physical life dream reality if i am an ascending being taking my physical body with me into this emerging enhanced physical life dream reality?... Ms Giddy & Dazed says: it depends on where he is headed... anything can happen... depending... Mr Sticking His Toe in The Water But Afraid to Dive In says: Ms G&D is talking about what I read once by an informed and knowledgeable man... I'll have to review that again and get back to you on it... but I'm so busy though you shouldn't wait on me... chuckle... all in fun... Last Edited By: Billy2024 06/24/11 07:16. Edited 8 times.
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omcasey		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2368 06/24/11 08:27	Hold tight there, Billy, I am laying the foundation of where I currently stand on the matter first and will continue from here later this evening perhaps. This is only the beginning..
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Billy2024	Devil's Advocate	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/24/11 11:41	In common parlance, a devil's advocate is someone who, given a certain argument, takes a position he or she does not necessarily agree with, just for the sake of argument. In taking such position, the individual taking on the devil's advocate role seeks to engage others in an argumentative discussion process. The purpose of such process is typically to test the quality of the original argument and identify weaknesses in its structure, and to use such information to either improve or abandon the original, opposing position. It can also refer (less commonly) to someone who takes a stance that is seen as unpopular or unconventional, but is actually another way of arguing a more conventional stance.
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omcasey	Physical Body Ascension - what if anything happens with bodily flaws in the process and afterwards	#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2368 06/24/11 03:47	Billy, Is this last post directed to me?, I am unsure now of how (or if) to continue.. We may have unique ways of conceptualizing physical body ascension but my way is in no way opposed to yours, or anyone else's. For me to reply to your inquiry (in the header) the foundation of my reply is best set first. If you feel it is in some way set to oppose you then our ground for meaningful discussion is indeed shaky, and perhaps it is best I sit this one out for now. I will be here, though, listening in. .
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Far North	Just fun	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 134 06/25/11 10:06	Casey… Billy is just having a great time. He loves this stuff. I think his question about one's current physical form versus the ideal physical form is interesting. Even Bashar addresses this issue. Bashar states that we can have any physical health we desire. All we have to do is access that frequency. I heard him address this in one of his recent presentations. Going back to Thomas Campell: he doesn't find it at all difficult to assume different physical forms. He travels multi-dimensionally all the time, picking up and discarding bodies along the way. He can take on a different physical form with the snap of the finger – like putting on a new costume. Interestingly, I think Jesus did this too. His post-resurrection body was remarkably healed in just two or three days. Interestingly, Jesus's body wasn't recognizable immediately to his disciples and to others. So whatever physical form Jesus established in the post-resurrection setting, it wasn't an exact replica of his pre-crucifixion body. I think the answer to Billy's questions about his current physical body is not an easy answer. In the future, as humankind better understands the exact workings of physical manifestation, it might be possible to resurrect lost physical capacities and ideal body states. Some people say that this is possible. Yogananda communicated with a spiritual master who never aged and who never died and yet who was a real person. This spiritual master had transcended physical aging, transcended physical malfunction, even transcended the need to eat and drink and eliminate. In the future it is possible that we won't age. We won't need to eat. We won't need to drink. These are all conditioned habits. Probably aging itself is conditional. We are programmed to think that we must age when it is entirely possible that aging is a misconception. Belief systems dictate. If you think you will age and think you will grow infirm, then it will happen. If you don't buy into that belief system, then you become immortal – like Yogananda's guru. Last Edited By: Far North 06/25/11 10:11. Edited 2 times.
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Billy2024	quiet for the summer... feel like a cold lonely time...	#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/25/11 12:31	it's gonna be quiet for the summer and thus feel like a cold lonely time... tho i'll see you in the sunlight and hear your voice everywhere through a 'letter' (relay) every day... we'll meet in September again and seal our connection with a kiss and be brought together face-to-face then... The 7 Stages of Emotional Clearing Navigating the Steps of Emotional Clearing The 9 Levels of DNA Recoding Last Edited By: Billy2024 06/25/11 02:41. Edited 5 times.
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Billy2024	Black Elk Speaks	#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/25/11 01:10	The Great Awakening To the Angel Within Act 4: Odyssey Under Way, Scene 10: All Is But A Beginning Words spoken ( Black Elk's Prayer ) on the song ( StarNations - Hawkwind "Black Elk Speaks" ) are by American poet John G Neihardt known to the Oglala Souix as Flaming Rainbow. Patterns and Coincidences: A Sequel to "All Is But a Beginning" by John Gneisenau Neihardt: This volume is a continuation of the autobiography of John G. Neihardt "All Is But a Beginning" offering a final glimpse into his fascinating life. Covering the years 1901-1908, he weaves a mosaic of personal fulfillment, joy and sorrow, reflecting on the successes and failures he experienced during his "mature" years. As only he could, Neihardt shares a mingling of romantic anecdotes alive with names and faces he sought out or fought for along the way. Writing with warmth and sensitivity, the late Poet Laureate of Nebraska tells of his early newspaper days, his struggle to write poetry, his family, his encounters with nature, his relationships with Indians, and the various people who, whether met once or often, had a profound effect on his life. Using a conversational style, the author does not present episodes in chronological order. Rather he begins to elaborate on one memorable experience, then quickly draws out, without warning, another one that occurred years later, tying them into a pattern or coincidence. The book's Epilogue is written by Neihardt's daughter, Hilda Neihardt Petri. Summarizing her father's visions, daydreams, and philosophy, she movingly concludes that with his death on 3 November 1973 Neihardt's "great adventure had begun." The late John G. Neihardt is best remembered as an authority on the traditions and customs of the Sioux Indians. Neihardt, named Poet Laureate of Nebraska in 1921 and Prairie Poet Laureate of America in 1968, was literary editor of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch from 1926 to 1938 and poet in residence and lecturer in English at the University of Missouri-Columbia from 1949 to 1965. The author of some twenty-five volumes of poetry, fiction, and philosophy, his works include "Black Elk Speaks," "Lyric and Dramatic Poems," and "A Cycle of the West." Black Elk's Vision, "Medicine Man - Black Elk's Story of the Great Circle": Black Elk Speaks by John G Neihardt, Hoop of the Nation. Last Edited By: Billy2024 06/25/11 01:25. Edited 2 times.
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Posts: 171 06/25/11 01:35	The Great Awakening To the Angel Within Act 4: Odyssey Under Way, Scene 10: All Is But A Beginning indian and great spirit story August 1993 told my son the "indian and great spirit story"... it goes like this...son you are an indian... as we walks along... indians must walk very softly... to not make a sound... so's they can listen to all the sounds 'round them in the wood... keepin' their eyes open... for danger... especially danger... for sometimes wild animals will attack... if they can sneak up on you... and sometimes you need food... and so must hear and see the deer... so's you can git close enough to kill a deer for food... for yourself and your family... to keep from bein' starved... sometimes the danger is other indians... from the enemy tribe or the white man... atryin' to sneak up on you... they will kill you... maybe after torturin' you a while... takin' your hair... cuttin' you open and up a bit... so son you are an indian... but you must be very quite and listen to ALL the sounds... and see ALL the sights 'round the woods you go... sometimes when listenin' to the birds closely... you notice they make frightenin' sounds... meanin' there's danger in the area... so's you can take precautions son... then as the indian gits pretty good at the listenin' and seein'... over a long time... the indian begins to notice that the great spirit... seems to be talkin' to him... in what he the indian sees in the woods... when doin' the seein' and 'earin'... more and more the indian begins to understand the great spirit is ALL 'round him... and after a while the indian starts to notice... he is 'earin' and seein'... inside himself thoughts and scenes... seems from his friends the other braves and squaws... and from his forest friends the deer, birds, insects and other animals... and in what he sees in the flowers, trees, plants and green and other colors... ALL the stuff 'round he sees... the talkin' waters especially... the flyin' geese... the boilin' fish... all the stuff 'round... the indian soon notices that the great spirit is a talkin' with him thru all the stuff 'round... and as the indian gits older and wiser and more experienced... he begins to take on a personal kind of friendship with the great spirit... yes son you must be very very quiet and listen to 'EAR son... and yes son you must also be very very quiet and scan with your eyes all 'round to SEE son... for there is danger every where son... so the son begins to learn the real reason for the 'EARin' and SEEin' on the lookout for the danger... is the great spirit's way of gittin' the indian to begin to seek out the company and understandin' of the great spirit... in a personal kind of friendship way with the great spirit... and i told my son... that is what i will call his "you be an indian son" lesson... so's he will know what i mean in the future... as his mother, friend and i continue to train him in the "you be an indian son" lesson... also i told him 'bout the geese that flew in harmony... till they encountered a mild disturbance... that of me and jasper standin' there watchin' 'em... and they tended to part and flow into two streams to flow to fly 'round us... and in the breakin' of the harmony pattern... a few of the geese did a lose the balance dip... for a few seconds till they got adjusted... and could git back into the flocks' harmony once again... that i told my son, was the "goose balance dip" lesson... so's he will remember it when we might talk in the future 'bout his learnin' of stuff... especially when you, his mother and i are continuin' to work on atrainin' him... to be jist like his father... a regular chip off the old block... he is... and i'm sure we'll train too our two daughters to be like mom and friend... when you, their mother and i are continuin' to work on atrainin' the two daughters... NEAT huh dear... July 1993: "I read a couple more chapters in the John G Neihardt book today, and was struck by a line in it: "I am halfway convinced that there are dynamic patterns in our cosmos; that somehow some of us are caught up in such patterns and must fulfill them at any cost. I don't know just what I mean, but I suspect I mean something worthy of consideration". YEAH!! WHAT HE SAID!!! That's exactly what I feel is going on here. I couldn't stop this if I tried... Not that I want to. I think it's so awesome and wonderful... Why would I want to stop it? And to try to explain it to someone on the "outside"... is almost impossible... Anyway... I loved the line. It will help me explain this whole thing, I think. At least it seems to explain it to ME." Last Edited By: Billy2024 06/25/11 01:38. Edited 1 time.
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Billy2024	Activating the High Heart Incinerator	#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/25/11 07:31	2010/07/16 Insight: Activating the High Heart Incinerator Jelaila, I was just now (~11:00 am, Friday, 16 July 2010) reading your June 1998 Bridging to the Masses article wherein it states: Recoding is a simple process but does take some work. The work is clearing out the low frequency emotions stored in the physical and emotional bodies, and releasing the implants in the Light body (MerKaBa) that holds these emotions in place. The emotions connected to these implants are the root cause of physical and mental illness. The implants are connected to the lessons on your Life Blueprint. The emotions stored in the emotional body are clogging the plumbing of the psychic glands. Clearing them out is like using cosmic Drano. As they are cleared the psychic glands come back on line, thus opening your communication to higher dimensions. The release valve for this emotional clearing is located in the new chakra called the high heart. The high heart is at the thymus chakra, located between the heart and the throat in the upper chest. The high heart acts as an incinerator, transmuting the low frequency emotions into compassion, the highest frequency emotion. The tool for activating the high heart incinerator is called the Formula of Compassion. This Formula enables you to see the lesson you wanted to learn, then bring the layers of emotion stored in the physical/emotional bodies, and connected to the lesson, into the high heart where they are transmuted into compassion. With this you experience repeated frequency jumps, or ascension steps. When I read the sentence "The high heart is at the thymus chakra, located between the heart and the throat in the upper chest." my ears immediately perked up because that is exactly where the second Myst physician was looking and doing something with his hands to me as i described (01 July 2010) in Most Amazing Dream (sea voyage, Myst physicians): a second doctor approached me and looked at me below my neck... i was looking down at his head and he was looking at my upper chest and doing something with his hands... i couldn't feel anything or see what he was doing... as he reached he said "this one's an MMI"... The inescapable conclusion seems to me to be that the second Myst physician was working with my high heart area which is "at the thymus chakra, located between the heart and the throat in the upper chest"! I would say he was adjusting or correcting the implant located there which is connected to lessons on my Life Blueprint! I must admit that in the last couple weeks I have been certainly feeling different - in fact better. I've also noticed that I'm having more interesting dreams which seem to be an opening up of communication to higher dimensions (Ref. Spiritual Writing Pen and Cellphone Dream or Electronics Equipment Repair and Exhaustion Dream or Oriental Garden and Tree Fruit Dream or Clown Town Suburb Visit Dream). It seems clear to me that something has been done to me that has changed me for the better! I finished reading your The Mission Remembered book two about three weeks ago, along with your We are the Nibiruans, Return of the 12th Planet book one which i read several weeks before that. It seems clear to me now that reading both books plus various articles on your NibiruanCouncil website have acted as a trigger to launch me forward along a different path! This is most certainly an exciting experience that I seem to be undertaking and want to thank you very much for your being there and your work and my becoming aware of you! Bill Bishop humble experience (after Myst) Columbia, Missouri Last Edited By: Billy2024 06/25/11 08:03. Edited 5 times.
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Billy2024	School Cafeteria, Water Advice to Kitchen Head, Inside It Together Showing my old Car she Bought	#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 171 06/27/11 09:43	2011/06/27 Dream: School Cafeteria, Water Advice to Kitchen Head, Inside It Together Showing my old Car she Bought Went to bed very tired last night about 10:53 p.m. I had several typical non-memorable dreams during the earlier part of the night which I don't remember later. Outside our house there was a storm with lots of wind and rain most of the latter part of the night but I only hear the rain pelting the bedroom window at times when I am awake somewhat. I remember a dream scenario which starts out with my being in a neighborhood with some buildings in a small town where I have been before a number of times. All I can remember of the first fragment is that I recall something about horses at a street intersection - perhaps I was crossing and being careful to avoid being hurt by the team of horses. I remember finding myself in a hallway looking or going somewhere when I noticed there was someone coming up the darkened hallway from the way I had come. I think I was trying to avoid this person as I was feeling anxious about him catching up to me. I moved on forward along the hallway where I seemed to have met some more people in a room and felt further anxiety being among them. I next remember finding myself in what was apparently the dining area of an educational building cafeteria as there were tables and chairs around them. This cafeteria wasn't very busy at this time but there were a few people still sitting around the tables. I was looking for a drink of water so I approached the cafeteria serving area counters to get some water to drink. I was a little surprised to find that I was having difficulty finding water in this cafeteria because every cafeteria should have water always easily available for its customers. As I looked around the counters I couldn't find any water dispenser but I did happen to noticed some clear plastic glasses stacked inside each other laying on its side which clearly were for water or juices. I became upset at this point because I couldn't find any water to drink though there were clear plastic glasses for it. I looked around and found myself talking to the cafeteria director about this problem with her serving area. I told her that I couldn't find water and rather emphatically explained to her that it was important to always have water available for the people to drink in the cafeteria. I told her that she should install a water faucet in the cafeteria because it was very important to always have water available to drink there. The scene changes and I then find this young woman (kitchen director) together with me outside the building. I sense that she is attracted to me as she has a very happy disposition toward me and I feel and like this. Beside us is an automobile and I suggest to her to get into this vehicle with me so I can show it to her and I tell her we can have a sort of date (hoping to get romantic later with her as a result of this experience). She gets into the car with me in the driver's seat and her in the passenger's seat beside me. I started the car and noticing the dashboard lights and console between the two of us was about to drive it forward when I suddenly realized that this was my very old car which I have had for a long time and which I have built and kept running all these years. At the same time I also realize that my very attractive female companion (cafeteria director) has bought this automobile from me and I in fact need to show her how to use this old vehicle - how to drive it and how to maintain it as she doesn't seem to me to have much experience with it and I wonder how she is going to do this. Another words I realized that I am transferring this old vehicle over to her and I am concerned as to how to help her to know how to take care of this old vehicle and keep it running and maintained. And I'm a little surprised at myself that she has bought this old car from me but I am excited too that she is inside this car with me and I'm going to help her with learning how to take care of my car. At this point I awake and realize that the phrase "self-repair" has been planted in my mind somehow. Analysis: Being in an educational institution of some kind is a common dream theme of mine which seems to imply spiritual connections involving being trained or learning new experiences relating to my relationship to my guides. The educational building cafeteria and dining area are suggestive of a potential discussion about diet and food but curiously that aspect is only obliquely indicated here with the building/room reference and mention of the kitchen director who would naturally be a professional dietitian in charge of menus, logistics, personnel and management of the kitchen operation. Mention only of this role is suggestive that perhaps diet and food will be discussed in later dream/visual experiences. What is very significant though is the topic of water, i.e. not having any available in the dining area and my dream character insisting to the kitchen director that she needs to install a water dispenser so that water will always be available to people using the dining area. In the last couple weeks I have stockpiled at least two weeks of food (enough for at least 10 to 12 people) in our basement area including two 2.5 gallon plastic water containers (Ref: "If we can just get through September; Physical Location; Flooding Lucid Dream; Food Worry Dream; Time Marker Dream"). Perhaps the dream is indicating that more water should be stored than five gallons. Also the clear plastic cups in the dream make me realize that I have forgotten to get a package of plastic drinking glasses to add to the emergency basement stockpile. The old automobile suggests to me a reference to my physical body. Apparently the kitchen director (female guide) and I are going to enter it together so that we can learn to run and maintain it (i.e. probably she is going to be intimate with me in showing me how to self-repair and rebuild my body correcting its various flaws and imperfections which seems to me to be a very good, practical solution and answer to "Physical Body Ascension - what if anything happens with bodily flaws in the process and afterwards" - what a clever solution this would be and makes perfect sense to the practical side of me. Last Edited By: Billy2024 06/28/11 09:00. Edited 11 times.
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